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I cannot believe for the life of me that Billy has lived his life up till now thinking that this is better than The Rescue and The Sontaran Experiment!

Doctor who. The. Edge of. Destruction. Review on

That was a great multi-Doctor story you have written, and I am amazed how you squeezed every Doctor in this story, and it was a great idea to have Morbius as a villain.

I hope they give us a 14th/15th Doctor Tardis. Also, I miss the Tardis console playsets they used to do back in the day.

It is hard not to believe that the Math Smith story "Amy's Choice" was not inspired by this story. The Tardis has no power, the Crew are dealing with mixed emotions with each other (especially Rory) as well as the story taking place on the Tardis.

I liked this story but wish they’d continued with the ‘something’s got into the ship’ storyline! Felt a bit like Midnight, it would have been really creepy

2024 demands a sequel to this video!

I still think this is a really good and underrated story. Real good tension and character work in here.

It surreal to think while the 1st Doctor, Barbara, Ian and Susan are trying to escape the birth of the universe. Some distance away, the 5th Doctor, Tegan and Nyssa are trying to do the exact same thing during the events of Castrovalva.

Yea disappointed with doctor who . Feel only thing might save it if Steven Moffat might save it.Just have to say edge of destruction was a tv episode quickly created because the last episode was cancelled so it’s incredible anything makes sense.

A brilliant review as always from you two, next time is going to be brilliant and hilarious to watch, Also just goes to show little billy remembers about it as a good man goes to war was the mid series finale for series 6 haha, Also matts reaction was priceless. Can't wait for your spearhead from space review afterwards though as i watched it for the first time this year and loved it 😊.

The action hero companion always has a place, because it avoids the arguments about the Doctor claiming to be peaceful but constantly killing and blowing things up. The new series has only had Captain Jack, but he was never really a full time companion.

Five bucks says Kate mentioning her father will be every episode like Nucti crying Heck Susan would get on just fine with Nucti. They cry all the time

Came for the review Stayed for Hartnell Spaff

Oh bloody hell. Matt's reaction to the next episode matched my own perfectly... Oh well. Not like I have to watch it. I just get to watch you guys take a massive dump all over it. And then we'll be moving onto one of my favourite episodes of not just Classic Who, but Doctor Who as a whole. "SHOES!"

Ep. 1 was directed by Richard Martin (not Mervyn Pinfield) and Ep. 2 was directed by Frank Cox)

With all the talk about something getting in, I’m almost surprised RTD didn’t make it so sutekh entered here, now that would be a retcon 😂. I personally have a soft spot for this story despite its faults, not as good as Sontaran Experiment IMO but still great. Hartnell is my favourite classic doctor and Ian is my favourite classic companion, so a great TARDIS team and two episodes getting to explore that is brilliant, although wonder how a tiny bit of damage can cause so much chaos considering 10 is smashing the console with a hammer every week. (Correction for the last episode, jimmy vee had five 5” figures, the one not mentioned was the child Slitheen from the sja line. Brought to you by the guy who rewatches sja more than doctor who 👍)

At the 7:05 mark it sounds like Matt has been hitting the Robots of Death helium. Better check to make sure Louise Jameson isn't hiding in your cupboard and that there isn't a voc in your bedroom.

Two parters should have been more common.

Probably a story I consider very very underrated and not remembered by many fans. I don’t think much to the story but the speech with the doctor about the sun is good. But I put Edge of Destruction is one of the most obscure stories in the show, along with Power of Kroll, The smugglers, The Massacre, Delta and The Bannermen etc

Looking forward to Spearhead from Space review. Been waiting for you guys to do it since you started the channel 10 years ago, as it’s my favourite story of all of Doctor Who. 😊

i don’t know why people are running with Russell Tovey and Gugu Mbatha-Raw playing Sea Devils, that’s not been stated anywhere, they’re probably just playing UNIT people

The ship metaphor is the original lore -having been coopted by many a fiction writer - Only Fools used it in a fresh way. Moffat has no qualms in applying it yet again, to good effect

Mess.

A total mess of a series, unbelievably worse than the Chibnall era, complete with a retcon of Sutekh that is a total lie and a lead character who could be anyone apart from the Doctor.

I sort of wish rouge was captain jack. The perfect way to acknowledge the recast. Jack: Have you had work done? Doctor: You can talk!

Yo dude you sound like Boy George you heard!!!!

Stupid mother fuckers!!!!

Pack of Assholes in this channel for real!!!!

Yo mother fucker where the fuck you get those fucking toys bitch

I'm so glad that I'm not the only person who was sick of the Paternoster Gang. The amount of fans saying they wanted them to have their own spinoff made me think that I was alone in my curmudgeoness

Cool! Where did you find that?

1. Series 5 2. Series 3 3. Series 1 4. Series 2 5. Series 6 6. Series 4 7. Series 7 8. Series 9 9. Series 10 10. 60th Anniversary Specials 11. Series 8 12. Flux (Series 13) 13. Series 12 14. Season One (Series 14) 15. Series 11

I saw Deep Breath in the cinema, I had a fun time with that, though we weren't told there would be a Q&A at the end, there was a stretch of just blank screen, I assumed it was done and left, as did many others, so I missed that part. fun time though, a full 10 years before the next time I saw doctor who in the cinema. It was definitely over padded to fit the run time and for a run time that is really stretching what can be called feature length that seems a bit of a waste. I do have fond memories of going to that though

Can't believe I'm only JUST finding out about the hidden sound effects on this figure!

The audio version of Gerry Davis,s original script, is on CD by Big Finish and I have got it and it is billions of times better than the transmitted.

I was one of the judges on the Blue Peter competition for the gadgets. It was a VERY bizarre experience that ended with us spreading 50 drawings across Steven Moffat’s living room floor so he could give them a go over.

Oh nice. Edge of Destruction will be a fun one. Always love it when you guys go back to the black and white era.

I'm really sorry, I love this podcast but the constant "well we haven't heard anything about season 3 so the writing is on the wall" is making the pod really unlistenable atm. I get the finale was a bit of a let down but literally everything we've heard from RTD, Julie Gardner etc. has been very positive about what the reaction has been like from the BBC and Disney. Like even down to the joke about Doctor Who being included in the D23 sizzle reel, I get to some extent that was a joke but that does genuienly mean something in terms of how Disney view the show so to joke that it was just "put it because they had space to fill" is stopping any positive discussion about the possibility of renewal. We've even been told that Disney won't be making any decisions until January so we won't hear anything until then so acting like the sky is falling (when by all genuine accounts it isn't) is getting really tiring. Also you are obviously entitled to your opinions about the current era and especially the finale but I came here to listen to you natter about Deep Breath because I really like you as a podcast and its really off putting for the current era to keep being brought up as a punching bag especially seeing as (to put it bluntly) the show is objectively in a fine state, this "the current state of the show", cancellation mumerinig is something you have kinda just invented as a result of you personally being less infused by the recent run.

Matt Clown horn at 58:32

You are so off the mark, it is definitely entertaining! ;)

I like the fact the Doctor is more irascible and dubious in character, just like the original Doctor William Hartnell. I don’t like the comedic Sontaran or the atrocious modern Silurian. I’d rather watch this era of Who than the dreadful OTT over emotional Casanova Tennant Doctor or the horny crying I’ll hit on someone within minutes Gatwa Doctor. Least Peter Capaldi understood the Doctor’s character better than the others and tried his best to cut out the flirtatious crap. The scene where the Doctor talks to the android about body replacement and looking into the silver service he realises he could be referring to himself is beautifully played. Maybe it could have cut out the dinosaur action and have humans being skinned but perhaps Moffat didn’t want it to be too horrific? This is the problem with modern Who it isn’t gory enough and fails to kill off companions without resurrecting them or in RTD’s case hints they’ll die but they don’t. Modern Who is too soft and the Doctor’s characterisation is dragged down to a human level. What I love about Peter Capaldi is he doesn’t play the Doctor in too much of an empathetic way. He’s tactless and isn’t too concerned with human relatability. I do wish they’d have done more with his Doctor. Alien worlds and I’d have had a huge story arc involving a new Dalek Invasion of Earth with new Robomen and the Doctor meeting his Granddaughter for the last time. If you look at the 1st, 6th & 12th Doctors you can see they have this wonderful tetchy unpredictability which I find refreshing. The Doctor was after all originally supposed to be a bit of an anti-hero or at least a mysterious figure. I prefer this.

You guys are misinterpreting the scene where The Doctor leaves Clara behind. He did it to trick her into fending for herself and get as much information as possible. He never actually left her. He just needed information and knew Clara would get it. Like she said “He’ll still have my back.” And he was, but that element of doubt heightened her adrenaline.

I was completely baffled to learn (via the credits, after having sat through the film) that Ben Wheatley recently directed The Meg 2.

Gotta agree with thr comment saying that Matt Smith's inclusion completely undermined Capaldi. The Doctor shouldn't need a reference from his predecessor to work, he should just work. And, frankly, the fact that they felt they needed it showed that they actually had little faith in their brilliant casting choice, or little faith in their audience. If they were worried the audience wouldnt take to an older Doctor, the thing to do would be to jettison making him an abject prick throughout the series... The Colin Baker era had already shown what a terrible idea that was. Side note: I think I'm the only person in the worldxwho noticed this or us annoyed by it, but theologically, the promised land isn't thecsame as fucking Heaven/the afterlife. The promised land is Zion. Still, why does that matter? I mean, it's not as if understanding of that bit if terminology still has any real world ramifications, amirite? 😐

51:09 This would have been the sixth one hed done, actually! Matt had 2 versions , and then there was the 50th end credits version too

I swear I remember hearing/reading an interview with Capaldi that he actually wanted The Doctor to be more alien, which I think is represented in his more relaxed, brutish and slightly menacing take from Series 8. Which then went on to get u-turned the next couple seasons into a more lovable grandfather type. Which isn't inherently bad I suppose but I can't deny, I adore Capaldi as a bit of a d*ck bag to everyone and being sort of fed up with everyone around him. It provides for great comedy and also is just a fresh take on The Doctor which we just haven't seen up until that point.

RE the weird "smudge", this is present on both Jon's final title sequence and Tom's main title sequence through to s17, there are two weird black shapes, one bigger than the other, in the two bottom corners, they actually correlate to the points where the edge of the pertwee cloak cutout meets the bottom of the screen, for some reason they stay burned in after it transitions to the next shot, and that part of the sequence is retained after they tweaked the sequence for Tom. If you look at any story from S11 to S17 those black shapes are in the bottom corners of every single episode at that exact point.

Murray Gold's first version of the theme tune is acceptable, but his subsequent reimaginings just get worse and worse. Fair enough keep him for the incidental music, but could they really not ask new people to do the theme tune, rather like the James Bond theme songs? All Gold does is bury the tune under unnecessary and often unpleasant racket. Now we have dirty pervert heavy breathing in the theme tune. What next space farts?

I've always enjoyed this story. It's a perfect introduction for Capaldi's Doctor, he's unsettling and unpredictable in a way that the Doctor hasn't really been before. I enjoy the steampunk-ness of the villains, and I've never really had an issue with the run time of this one, it's always flew by. Okay, the strax/Clara scene is a bit jarring pace-wise, but I've always had a soft spot for Stray and the Paternoster gang. Overall, 7.5/10 for me!